Discussion:
wscontest tool
(too old to reply)
Sam Wilson
2018-06-22 00:08:26 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

After chatting with User:CristianCantoro at the Barcelona hackathon, I
had a crack at a web frontend for the wscontest tool. It is now online
at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wscontest/

It's not quite done, there's a bunch of things to be fixed, but is
functioning to some extent. I've started a list of its issues at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/tool-wscontest/

--sam
Rachmat W.
2018-06-22 07:29:45 UTC
Permalink
Thank you, Sam!

We would like to utilize this tool in the Wikisource contest later. :)

Kind regards,
Rachmat
Post by Sam Wilson
Hi all,
After chatting with User:CristianCantoro at the Barcelona hackathon, I
had a crack at a web frontend for the wscontest tool. It is now online
at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wscontest/
It's not quite done, there's a bunch of things to be fixed, but is
functioning to some extent. I've started a list of its issues at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/tool-wscontest/
--sam
_______________________________________________
Wikisource-l mailing list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
ankry.wiki
2018-06-22 12:00:24 UTC
Permalink
Maybe a bit OT, but did anybody consider to analyze how many corrections / how much content a user changes his/her edits?
 
As we (in pl.ws) focus on text quality, it would be appreciated to score higher the edits with corrections than edits with no correction ("no errors found").
I understand that it is hard to create such tool, especially if automatic corrections (eg. <br /> -> <br> or template parameter reorganization should be ignored), but maybe, somebody has an idea how to to do this?
 
Ankry
 
PS. We do not participate in this contest in its current form because some of our users are afraid that this will lower the text quality (users might prefer just to update the status without careful checking the content, just declaring that "no errors found"; and it is hard to identify such users/edits).
 
W dniu 2018-06-22 09:29:45 uÅŒytkownik Rachmat W. <***@gmail.com> napisał:
Thank you, Sam!
 
We would like to utilize this tool in the Wikisource contest later. :)
 
Kind regards,
Rachmat
On Jun 22, 2018, 07:08 +0700, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au>, wrote:
Hi all,
After chatting with User:CristianCantoro at the Barcelona hackathon, I
had a crack at a web frontend for the wscontest tool. It is now online
at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wscontest/
It's not quite done, there's a bunch of things to be fixed, but is
functioning to some extent. I've started a list of its issues at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/tool-wscontest/
--sam
_______________________________________________
Wikisource-l mailing list
Wikisource-***@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
 
 
Sam Wilson
2018-06-24 01:48:18 UTC
Permalink
This is a good point, and we certainly don't want contests to encourage
people to mark pages as proofread or validated too hastily.

I think the main guard against this is that scores will not be exposed
until contest admin chooses to, and after they have had a chance to go
through a sample of each person's edits to make sure they're not
cheating. And of course, the normal on-wiki processes still apply, to
catch edits that are not good.

As far as not scoring for e.g. template reorganising etc. I'm not sure
that's going to be very easy at all! :) But if anyone's got any ideas,
let us know. But we could do something about counting edit size maybe?
Although, especially in validating, larger edits don't necessarily mean
they should be worth more points.

We could subtract points for any edits post-validatation, rather than
(as it is now) just for demotions (I'm not sure how many people demote
pages from validated, compared to how many just fix them and leave them
as validated).
Post by ankry.wiki
Maybe a bit OT, but did anybody consider to analyze how many corrections
/ how much content a user changes his/her edits?
As we (in pl.ws) focus on text quality, it would be appreciated to score
higher the edits with corrections than edits with no correction ("no
errors found").
I understand that it is hard to create such tool, especially if
automatic corrections (eg. <br /> -> <br> or template parameter
reorganization should be ignored), but maybe, somebody has an idea how
to to do this?
Ankry
PS. We do not participate in this contest in its current form because
some of our users are afraid that this will lower the text quality
(users might prefer just to update the status without careful checking
the content, just declaring that "no errors found"; and it is hard to
identify such users/edits).
W dniu 2018-06-22 09:29:45 użytkownik Rachmat W.
Thank you, Sam!
We would like to utilize this tool in the Wikisource contest later. :)
Kind regards,
Rachmat
Hi all,
After chatting with User:CristianCantoro at the Barcelona hackathon, I
had a crack at a web frontend for the wscontest tool. It is now online
at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wscontest/
It's not quite done, there's a bunch of things to be fixed, but is
functioning to some extent. I've started a list of its issues at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/tool-wscontest/
--sam
_______________________________________________
Wikisource-l mailing list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
_______________________________________________
Wikisource-l mailing list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Loading...