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Fw: Re[2]: Validated works on kowikisource?
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billinghurst
2017-10-25 12:07:54 UTC
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oops, circulated reply settings weren't correct yesterday ...

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Subject: Re[2]: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

The validation flag for wikisource on wikidata is a manual switch, and
none of the available external tools/toys are able to tweak it at this
point of time.

-- billinghurst

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From: "Gerard Meijssen" <***@gmail.com>
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Sent: 12/10/2017 5:14:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

>Hoi,
>What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything
>it is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps
>everything.
>Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata.
>>The tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index
>>pages.
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>Hoi,
>>>Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books
>>>in Wikisource?
>>>Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>>On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>>> > No validated works found for ko
>>>>
>>>>The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and
>>>>categorized
>>>>mainspace works on kowikisource.
>>>>
>>>>Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the
>>>>validated-index category?
>>>>https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8
>>>><https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Sam.
>>>>
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Gerard Meijssen
2017-10-25 13:04:06 UTC
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Hoi,
When there is value in having readers, these values will be set one way or
the other. The point is do we care that people read the finished books of
Wikisource, how do we indicate what is available for reading and how do we
measure the number of downloads of books.

Finally how can we increase this.

When we have to this manually, is there a query that shows all the finished
books?

PS it is not finished until it is finished and read.
Thanks,
GerardM

On 25 October 2017 at 14:07, billinghurst <***@gmail.com>
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> oops, circulated reply settings weren't correct yesterday ...
>
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> Subject: Re[2]: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?
>
> The validation flag for wikisource on wikidata is a manual switch, and
> none of the available external tools/toys are able to tweak it at this
> point of time.
>
> -- billinghurst
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Gerard Meijssen" <***@gmail.com>
> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
> wikisource-***@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: 12/10/2017 5:14:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?
>
> Hoi,
> What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything it
> is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps
> everything.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>
>> Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata. The
>> tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index pages.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>
>> Hoi,
>> Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in
>> Wikisource?
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>
>> > No validated works found for ko
>>
>> The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized
>> mainspace works on kowikisource.
>>
>> Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the
>> validated-index category?
>> https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%
>> EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sam.
>>
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Anika Born
2017-10-26 09:45:23 UTC
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do we have a meta-page with an overview for this discussion?

the question is about a query "proofread status" (that I don't know) and
"validated", "proofread", "uncorrected", "incomplete", "pages/projects with
problems to proofread" (and some others)

second question would be how to maintain.

Only PR2-Projects do have index-pages. PR1-Projects (at least at de.ws)
don't have index-pages (but scans). In de.ws there are categories and
templates that could serve as identifier.

Best
Anika

2017-10-25 15:04 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <***@gmail.com>:

> Hoi,
> When there is value in having readers, these values will be set one way or
> the other. The point is do we care that people read the finished books of
> Wikisource, how do we indicate what is available for reading and how do we
> measure the number of downloads of books.
>
> Finally how can we increase this.
>
> When we have to this manually, is there a query that shows all the
> finished books?
>
> PS it is not finished until it is finished and read.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 25 October 2017 at 14:07, billinghurst <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> oops, circulated reply settings weren't correct yesterday ...
>>
>> ------ Forwarded Message ------
>> From: "billinghurst" <***@gmail.com>
>> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
>> wikisource-***@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: 12/10/2017 6:21:28 PM
>> Subject: Re[2]: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?
>>
>> The validation flag for wikisource on wikidata is a manual switch, and
>> none of the available external tools/toys are able to tweak it at this
>> point of time.
>>
>> -- billinghurst
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Gerard Meijssen" <***@gmail.com>
>> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
>> wikisource-***@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: 12/10/2017 5:14:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?
>>
>> Hoi,
>> What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything
>> it is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps
>> everything.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata. The
>>> tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index pages.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in
>>> Wikisource?
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <***@samwilson.id.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> > No validated works found for ko
>>>
>>> The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized
>>> mainspace works on kowikisource.
>>>
>>> Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the
>>> validated-index category?
>>> https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%
>>> EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sam.
>>>
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